Green,  Samuel Jr.

Green, Samuel Jr.

Male 1803 - 1849  (46 years)  

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  • Name Green, Samuel  [1
    Suffix Jr. 
    Born 1803  Thetford Center, Thetford, Orange County, Vermont, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  [1
    Gender Male 
    Died 24 Jul 1849  Otto, Cattaraugus, New York, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  [1
    Buried West Hill Cemetery, Cattaraugus, Cattaraugus, New York, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  [1
    Person ID I26185  Sackett | Simon Sackett the Colonist, Descendants of Thomas Sacket the Elder
    Last Modified 10 Jul 2013 

    Father Green, Samuel,   b. 6 Mar 1779, Coventry, Tolland, Connecticut, USA Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Aft 1812  (Age 33 years) 
    Mother Sacket, Lavina "Vina",   b. 13 Dec 1781, Kent (Town of), Litchfield County, Connecticut, USA Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 27 Jul 1805  (Age 23 years) 
    Married 11 May 1800  Hartford, Windsor County, Vermont, USA Find all individuals with events at this location 
    • Vermont General Index to Vital Records, LDS Film #19049, #223:
      Lovina Sackett, bride, resident of Hartford, married Samuel Green, groom, on May 11, 1800, by Asa Burton, Minister, in Hartford records, book 1, page 65.
    Children 4 children 
    Family ID F1160  Group Sheet

    Family Ferguson, Elinor,   b. 1815, Schohaire, Schohaire, New York, USA Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 1896, Hanover, Oneida, New York, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 81 years) 
    Married Abt 1830  Onondaga County, New York, USA Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Children 
     1. Green, James Clark,   b. 1833,   d. 1852  (Age 19 years)
     2. Green, Heman E,   b. 17 May 1836, New Albion, Cattaraugus, New York, USA Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 25 Jun 1910, Hanover, Oneida, New York, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 74 years)
     3. Green, Harvey Stillman,   b. 24 Jun 1837, Mansfield, Cattaraugus County, New York, USA Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 27 Oct 1871, Mansfield, Cattaraugus County, New York, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 34 years)
     4. Green, Marcus Lafayette,   b. 2 Nov 1841, Mansfield, Cattaraugus County, New York, USA Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 4 Feb 1918, Hanover, Oneida, New York, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 76 years)
     5. Green, Martha,   b. 1843, Mansfield, Cattaraugus County, New York, USA Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Unknown
     6. Green, Rush Ann,   b. 1845, Mansfield, Cattaraugus County, New York, USA Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Bef 1880, Hanover, Oneida, New York, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 34 years)
     7. Green, Daniel,   b. 1847,   d. Unknown
     8. Green, Mary E,   b. 1850, New Albion, Cattaraugus, New York, USA Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 15 Oct 1858  (Age 8 years)
    Last Modified 20 Jan 2009 
    Family ID F9392  Group Sheet

  • Event Map
    Link to Google MapsBorn - 1803 - Thetford Center, Thetford, Orange County, Vermont, USA Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsMarried - Abt 1830 - Onondaga County, New York, USA Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsChild - Green, Harvey Stillman - 24 Jun 1837 - Mansfield, Cattaraugus County, New York, USA Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsChild - Green, Marcus Lafayette - 2 Nov 1841 - Mansfield, Cattaraugus County, New York, USA Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsChild - Green, Martha - 1843 - Mansfield, Cattaraugus County, New York, USA Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsChild - Green, Rush Ann - 1845 - Mansfield, Cattaraugus County, New York, USA Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsDied - 24 Jul 1849 - Otto, Cattaraugus, New York, USA Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsBuried - - West Hill Cemetery, Cattaraugus, Cattaraugus, New York, USA Link to Google Earth
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  • Notes 
    • Herman's brother, Harvey Stillman Greene, is my 2G grandfather. Harvey married Fidelia Balcom and her side of the family is well documented. The Greenes on the other hand have presented problems.
      What is known about Samuel. He bought land from Holland Land Co. in 1838. He and several others attempted to establish a Free-will Baptist Society, with limited success. This reportedly caused some problems with the mostly Methodist family members. Census records of his children show that he was born in Vermont.
      Have had reports that Samuel commited suicide following some marital indiscretion. (? his or his wife's). Have been unable to document this at all. His wife Elinor Ferguson is not the Elinor Sutton that some online info shows. Military records of her sons report her last name as Ferguson.
      Other issues about Samuel. Family lore says that Samuel's initial property was in Silver Creek, Chautauqua Co. Supposedly this is the grape farm that ended up as his son Lafe's farm. Can't prove (or disprove) this. Family research done by Harvey's son Clayton, and granddaughter Ruth & Clarice, reported that church history indicated that Samuel was called Jr. and Samuel F was called Sr, to differentiate them by age, but that they were not related. Clayton remembered that their[sic] was a cousin or brother of Samuel's named Charles. It appears that there was also some relationship to Belinus Green in Chautauqua Co., as Elinor lived in or near that family after Samuel's death, and the children were reportedly raised together with this family--only proof of this is census records. She is also reported to spend several months with each of her children, once they were grown. The census records seem to support this gossip. {This Samuel Greene has been confused with a Samuel who was born in 1803 and died on 10-17-1846. He married Elinor Peleg and both are buried in Sterling, CT}
      Samuel & Elinor Ferguson Greene's children included:
      Clark who was born in 1833 & died at 19. He served as father to his younger siblings, but was thought to have been frail with some sort of respiratory problems. Lafe (Marcus Lafayette) who had the grape farm in Silver Creek. His family was unhappy with his second marriage. Harvey S. sold his interest in family farm to Lafe and moved his family to Michigan in abt 1865. By 1868 the family was back in Mansfield, NY on land next door to brother Heman (or Herman). Martha, who was born in 1843 went to live at an early age with Leyman & Sarah Newton. This couple was known to be related, but don't know how. Ruth born 1845 married Elijah Thomas. According to family letters they lived in Forestville, NY, and were frequent hosts of Elinor. The Thomases must have been fairly successful, as they reportedly assisted other family members. Daniel--have 2 conflicting pieces on him. One says that he died at age 7. The other says he was the father of Daniel who was a carpenter in Erie Co., NY.
      Mary E was born after Samuel's death. She was reported spoiled by the rest of the family, and her death at age 8, was difficult.
      Most of the online info on Harvey Stillman & Fidelia Balcom Greene is based on the 1870 census which had errors.
      Have a page from Fidelia's Bible and it records the following children:
      Unnamed infant born Aug 5 & died Aug 22 1863; Rev. Bert Stillman (my Ggrandfather) b. 22 Jun 1864 d 23 Nov 1929; Carrie L b 12 Apr 1866 d. 19 Sep 1912; Elmer Adele b 12 Feb 1869 d 29 Dec 1929; Clayton C b 20 Jun 1870 d 1952; Jessie May b 2 Apr 1872 d 1959. Have much info and some photos of this family.

      As far as Heman/Herman info goes: his nephews referred to him as Uncle Herman, but most doc't shows him as Heman. His injuries and Harvey's asthma led to their partnership on a farm between Otto & Mansfield, NY. Both lost their interest in the family farm to Lafe.

      Biggest questions:
      Who were the parents of Samuel & Elinor. Most support that Samuel F. Green was Samuel Jr.'s father as they attended the same church and were buried next to each other at West Hill Cemetery in Mansfield. (By the way, family lore reports that Elinor had Samuel's remains moved to a cemetery in Chautauqua to be nearer to her family.) Early family researchers were adament that these two were not related, and no doc't shows that they were father and son. No birth records can be found, and as they were Free-will Baptist, no childhood baptism records. Have not been able to locate the church records from the Baptist church in Mansfield they both attended. The church disbanded abt 1848. Samuel Jr had a brother Heman who was also a member of the church. (I'm related to Lavina Sackett's, the one that many claim is Samuel's mom; family on my Ggrandmother's side of the family, and know that the link to this marriage is also fragil, and hasn't been proven either.)
      Most people report that Elinor was born in Schoharie, NY. Family lore reports that she came from New Jersey.

      Of course there is the usual Greene claim to ancestory with Gen. Nathaniel Greene, but ours was that Samuel was descended from an uncle of Nathaniel. No one could ever prove this.

      How did Stillman's fit into this family. It is the middle name in at least 3 generations. Could it be Samuel or Elinor's mother?
      Who was Elinor's brother, who is referred to in the Chautauqua area, but never mentioned by name?
      How do Belinus, Stephen, & Charles fit into this family? Was Lafe's farm the one originally bought by Belinus?

      Good luck with your research,
      Brenda
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      http://www.paintedhills.org/CATTARAUGUS/NewAlbion1879Bios/NewAlbion1879Hist.htm
      RELIGIOUS SOCIETIES;
      About 1840 a Free-Will Baptist society was formed in the eastern part of the town, holding its meetings in the school-house, on lot 6. Among other members were Samuel and Heman GREEN, and George BABCOCK, the latter being a local preacher. Rev. Joseph DAVIS occasionally preached here. The loss of members by removal caused the society to disband in eight or ten years.
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      Name: Samuel Green
      Residence: Cattaraugus, New York
      Age in years: 46
      Estimated birth year: 1804
      Birth place: Vermont
      Gender: Male
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      Death month: Jul
      Death date: Jul 1849
      Film number: 1415128
      Image number: 00114
      Reference number: 6
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      Marital status: Married
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      Collection: 1850 United States Census (Mortality Schedule)
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      Find A Grave Memorial
      Samuel Greene
      Birth: 1803
      Death: Jul. 24, 1849; Otto, Cattaraugus County, New York, USA

      Family links:
      Children:
      Harvey Stillman Greene (1837 - 1871)

      Burial:
      West Hill Cemetery, Cattaraugus, Cattaraugus County, New York, USA

      Created by: SBru
      Record added: Jul 20, 2011
      Find A Grave Memorial# 73665959

  • Sources 
    1. [S543] Find A Grave (www.findagrave.com), Memorial# 73665959 (Reliability: 3).


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